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The Development of My Ideas Concerning
the
Divine Inspiration of
Mrs.
E. G. White:


A
Personal History
Part
1


Harold Snide


(
c. 1950)


 

 

 

 


 
I was reared a Seventh-day Adventist as was my mother before me.  My mother's father, Elder H. W. Lawrence, was a Millerite in 1844 and was later a Seventh-day Adventist minister, ordained by Elder James White.  A letter from him to Elder White relative to the condition of the Cause in northern New York was printed in the Advent Review & Sabbath Herald of March 23, 1842, published at Saratoga Springs, New York.  It was my grandfather who was largely instrumental in persuading the Whitney Brothers, Buel and S.B. and Wilbur, to become Seventh-day Adventists.  A. W. Spaulding's book, Pioneer Stories of the Second Advent Message, presents chapter xxix, "The Health Work," from the experience of my grandparents.  Grandfather Lawrence knew both Elder and Sister White very well and had great confidence in the gift of prophecy as manifested through Sister White.  One of his cherished possessions was a personal testimony to him from Sister White.  He believed however that there was possibly a difference in degree of inspiration between statements prefaced by "I saw" and statements not so introduced.  Therefore he deplored the omission of such prefatory statements in later revisions of Mrs. White's writings, as tending to obliterate existing distinctions of inspiration.

At five years of age I memorized a portion of Matthew 28:18-20 as a Sabbath School memory verse; and upon having it explained to me, I decided to fulfill that commission when I grew up.

 


Matthew 28:18-20 NKJV --
        

Then Jesus came and spoke to them, saying, "All authority has been given to Me in heaven and on earth.  Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe all things that I have commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, even to the end of the age."


In my eleventh year I was truly converted and was baptized.  One day I said to my mother, "Mamma, I want to read some of Sister White's visions."  So she gave me a copy of Early Writings, and how I did enjoy those marvelous descriptions of the New Earth and the thrilling times ahead of God's people in the closing scenes of this troubled old world!  I read and re-read the book.

While I was still a boy at home I had access to numerous pamphlets written against Sister White, some by "First Day Adventists" and some by A. T. Jones, with the General Conference reply to the latter.  I was impressed with the disingenuous and unwarranted use made of her writings by some of her opponents.  Their garbling of her statements and their unfair deductions confirmed my faith in her as a true prophet of the Lord.

While I was still in my early teens I entered the colporteur work and earned a scholarship to South Lancaster Academy.  With my order of books for the final delivery I ordered for myself a new high-priced Oxford Bible and a set of the nine volumes of the Testimonies for the Church in red leather.  For such books the best binding was none too good.

In my five years of study at South Lancester Academy and Atlantic Union College, I looked upon Sister White's writings just about as I did upon the Bible.  Apparently all the teachers and ministers held that same attitude.  In my course in Denominational History and Spirit of Prophecy, my confidence was built up, and I was much impressed with the memory selection: "It is Satan's plan to weaken the faith of God's people in the Testimonies.  Next follows skepticism in regard to the vital points of our faith, the pillars of our position, then doubt as to the Holy Scriptures, and then the downward march to perdition."  4T 211:2.

My First Doubt

In the winter of 1920, when, with my bride of a few months, I was holding an evangelistic effort in Tupper Lake, New York, my father wrote me an urgent letter stating his opinion that our whole denominational literature was wrong in explaining the text "Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched."  Mark 9:48.   Book after book and article after article for fifty years had explained the "worm" as a destroying agent like the "fire," and referred the language for its literal illustration to the refuse incinerator in the Valley of Hinnom.  But Sister White in Early Writings, page 254, says:

They were punished according to the deeds done in   the body.  Some were many days consuming, and just as long as there was a portion of them unconsumed,   all the sense of suffering remained.  Said the angel, "The worm of life shall not die; their fire shall not be quenched as long as there is the least particle for it to prey upon."

This angelic quotation clearly refers the "worm" not to any destroying agent, but to the life of the individual who is being destroyed.  I believe it was a statement from the pen of Elder F. C. Gilbert that attracted my father's attention to the matter.  Father had always interpreted Mark 9:48 in harmony with Early Writings, p. 294.  At least it was to Elder Gilbert that he wrote asking why our denominational writers explained the "worm" as a destroying agent, contrary to the statement in Early Writings.  Elder Gilbert offered no explanation, but stated in a brief reply that he saw no discrepancy between the two statements.  Inasmuch as there was nothing but discrepancy, this aroused my father greatly, and he wrote to me, sending an outline of his explanation of Mark 9:48, in harmony with Early Writings but unlike anything else in our denominational literature.  Father wanted me to write it out more fully if I saw best to do so.  I started enthusiastically, certain that Early Writings was correct.  But as I studied and wrote I became more and more convinced that in the Bible the "worm" is an agent of destruction along with the fire.  So the article is still unfinished -- still lying with other manuscripts in a desk drawer.

I tried to think that in Early Writings the expression "the worm of life" might mean "the living worm" as an agent of destruction; but the preceding sentence forbade such a meaning.  The best that I could do was to note that in Early Writings, page 294, no actual citation is made to any chapter and verse in the Bible, and therefore the words of the angel might not refer to Mark 9:48 or Isaiah 66:24.  Yet every time I would read Early Writings I realized that such an attempt to make the angel's words independent of those Bible verses was not in harmony with Sister White's intention when she wrote Early Writings.  I knew that if a Mormon or a Jehovah's Witness should use such an argument to save his system of teaching from collapse, I would call it subterfuge, and should feel like laughing at the shallowness of it.  This remained an unsolved puzzle through the years.  But as I do not have to solve all puzzles, I laid the matter aside, so far as possible, and filled my mind with other matters.

Doubt Becomes Certainty

About the year 1921 I was pastor of the Binghamton, New York, Seventh-day Adventist church, and lived next door to Elder D. G. Turk, a former pastor, then retired.  While we were visiting together one day, some mention was made of 2 Thess. 2:9, and Elder Turk produced an Emphatic Diaglott to show that in this verse the expression "after the working of Satan" did not mean "after" in time, but "after" in the sense of "according to."  This interested me greatly because it is a much used text, and that was a point I had not before got clear in my mind.  A few months later at a Union Conference session in Springfield, Massachusetts, I heard Elder L. K. Dickson use 2 Thess. 2:9 in a sermon on "Armageddon."  He took pains to explain that "after" in this verse refers to time, and that he "whose coming is after the working of Satan" is Christ.  Elder Orva Leo Ico was sitting at my left in the audience, and I whispered to him, asking whether the Greek did not require the other interpretation of that text.  He nodded assent, and added that Elder Dickson was interpreting it according to Patriarchs and Prophets.  So when I reached home I looked this up in Patriarchs and Prophets, and found on page 686 this statement:

Paul, in his second letter to the Thessalonians, points to the special working of Satan in Spiritualism as an event to take place immediately before the second advent of Christ.  Speaking of Christ's second coming, he declares that it is "after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders."

Then I went to Lidell and Scott's Greek Lexicon and found that the proposition here translated "after" or "according to," while usually meaning the latter, could in some instances be used of time, with the meaning of "during."  This discovery brought great relief to my mind, and impressed me with the evident leading of the Lord in Sister White's interpretation in Patriarchs and Prophets, inasmuch as she knew no Greek and yet explained the verse contrary to most scholars but seemingly within the possibilities of the Greek language.  Having two or three other instances in mind where Sister White had seemed to make misstatements, but had not really done so, I decided to write an article on the wonders of the Spirit of Prophecy as illustrated by instances where Sister White had exhibited unstudied scholarship.  In preparing such an article I took occasion to examine every place where Sister White had used or commented on 2 Thess. 2:9, and right away was surprised by the following:

Even at the time when the apostle was writing, the 'mystery of iniquity' had already begun to work.  The developments that were to take place in the future were to be "after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders."  AA 266.

Here the preposition "after" is evidently used with the meaning "according to" as translated by the American Standard Version, and as quoted in 8T 226.  Thus the one whose "coming" is described in this verse is antichrist; whereas, in PP 686, it is Christ.  This discovery ended my contemplated article on the supernatural accuracy of Sister White.

Perplexity Number Three

In Early Writings, page 36, there is an explanation of Rev. 11:18, "and the time of the dead that they should be judged," which made an early impression upon my mind:

I saw that the anger of the nations, the wrath of God, and the time to judge the dead, were separate and distinct, one following the other.

This would not allow the judging of the dead of Rev. 11:18 to apply to the hypothetical "Investigative Judgment" of 1844, but would limit it to the Millennial judgment of the wicked.  I noted that Elder Uriah Smith was in agreement with this in his comments in Thoughts on Revelation; and away back in 1918 I marked in the margin of A. T. Jones' Great Nations of Today, page 116, my disagreement with his comment on Rev. 11:18 --

This time of the dead that they should be judged, is the same time referred to in Rev. 14:6,7 in which the threefold message carries still the everlasting gospel to them that dwell on the earth...

Therefore, it was with great surprise that about the year 1924 I found this text quoted in 6T 14 and applied not after the seven last plagues as in Early Writings page 36, but to the present time, thus:

The nations are angry, and the time of the dead has come that they should be judged.

I  Seek Help

A short time later at a campmeeting at Union Springs, New York, I asked Elder A. G. Daniells in a private conversation, whether he thought that Sister White's use of a text of Scripture was always a sure guide to its meaning.  He said that he generally considered her use of a text as an inspired commentary on that text.  I was aching for help, and wanted to ask how to determine the true meaning when Sister White used or explained the same text in contradictory ways; but I did not dare to mention specific problems for fear I should be judged as "doubting the Testimonies."  I derived some comfort from Elder Daniells' use of the word "generally."  It left room for exceptions.  Perhaps he too had been forced to accommodate his ideas of inspiration to include a few contradictions.

Perplexity Number Four

In the summer of 1915 I was canvassing for Bible Readings in Schohario County, New York.  At one farm home where I boarded for a short time there was a large "Family Bible" in the spare room which I occupied.  In the Bible was the Apocrypha.  Having wished for some years to become acquainted with the Apocrypha, I took this occasion to read largely in it.  As I read in 2 Esdras I felt much as I suppose Luther felt when he first discovered a Bible.  There were the streams ceasing to flow (2 Esdras 6:24; Early Writings 285); and the sun shining in the night (2 Esdras 5:4; Early Writings 285); and there was the Son of God taller than all the saints, standing in the midst of them and putting crowns on their heads (2 Esdras 2:42-47; Early Writings 288); and there were the seven mountains covered with roses and lilies, "Whereby I will fill thy children with joy" (2 Esdras 2:19; Early Writings 19).  The conclusion seemed obvious that the writer of 2 Esdras must have learned these details by divine revelation; for how else could he have known these things which had only recently been revealed to Sister White? 

My interest in 2 Esdras was intense.  Surely every Seventh-day Adventist ought to know about 2 Esdras.  I studied the book diligently, trying to untangle the symbolism.  Some years later, when I started to write a little book of miscellaneous prophetic expositions (Prophetic Essays, published in 1927), I planned to include a chapter on 2 Esdras, showing that it must be, at least in part, a divine revelation, because of its similarity to Early Writings.

I still have the unfinished manuscript for that chapter.  More thorough study revealed that chapters 1, 2, 15 and 16 of 2 Esdras are not in the Arabic nor in the Ethiopic, and are probably interpolations by a later writer.  But some of the choice comparisons with Early Writings are in these chapters.  Even those Christian denominations which admit the canonicity or near-canonicity of the Apocrypha, do not accept 2 Esdras.  For fear that in the minds of some the ill-repute of 2 Esdras should seem to adhere to Early Writings, I never finished the chapter.  It does seem that where the ideas and language are practically identical, 2 Esdras and Early Writings must have come from the same source or else Early Writings is copied from 2 Esdras in those portions.  In those early days Elder James White sometimes quoted the Apocrypha as Bible (A Word to the Little Flock, pp. 2, 3, 23), and it is difficult to avoid the conviction that Mrs. White did not know the difference either.  It becomes difficult to think that these statements have any higher source in Early Writings than they have in 2 Esdras.

In 1927, shortly after going to Union Springs to teach Bible, published the book Prophetic Essays.  In it I refer to passages from Sister White's writings as proof-texts indiscriminately with Bible verses.  Some of the studies in Prophetic Essays were revisions of earlier studies written years before, and in this use of Sister White's writings they reflect my earlier attitude.  Though even at that time I hardly admitted to myself that my attitude had materially changed.  However, in the last chapter, in a suggestive list of baptismal questions, number 20 has the expression: "Do you believe Mrs. White's visions to be from the Lord?"  I worded the question purposely thus because one could conceivably assent to it while knowing that there were inaccuracies and contradictions in some of Mrs. White's writings.  It seemed that whatever supernatural element there was in her work must have been from the Lord; but it seemed just as certain that there were inaccuracies in her books.

Why I Believed in Her
in spite of 8 more
Discrepancies

About the time that I went to Union Spring Academy (1927) I secured an early (1887) edition of Great Controversy, and volumes ii, iii, and iv of Spiritual Gifts.  In these books I encountered further problems and contradictions.  Then, for my own satisfaction, I wrote out, in 1928 or 1929, what seemed to me to be the truth regarding Sister White's work.  It repeats some points already mentioned, and is reproduced here only in part and slightly revised.  I prefaced the study with the four points which seemed to me to authenticate Sister White's work to be from the Lord, and entitled it



Intelligent Use of the
Testimonies
 


(That which follows, until notice is given otherwise, is essentially what I wrote in 1928 or 1929 in an attempt to clarify my own thinking.)


Mrs. E. G. White had visions and supernatural revelations.  These manifestations were from the Lord because:

1. The genuineness of Mrs. White's personal Christian experience cannot be doubted.

2. Her gift has been closely connected with the proclamation of Present Truth.

3. The effect of her work is to promote holiness and practical godliness.

4. The gift of prophecy as scripturally promised to the Remnant Church.

However, extreme views have sometimes been taken which cannot be substantiated; for it is certain that:

1.  Mrs. White was not incapable of speaking or writing in an ordinary manner, without supernatural aid. 

She did so write in Spiritual Gifts, vol. ii, in giving an account of her life, labors, and travels.  She says that in writing these accounts she was liable to error in detailed statements of facts; and she evidently did make such mistakes.  In the preface of Spiritual Gifts, Vol. ii, it is stated:

In preparing the following pages, I have labored under great disadvantages, as I have had to depend in many instances on memory, having kept no journal till within a few years.  In several instances I have sent the manuscripts to friends who were present when the circumstances related occurred, for their examination before they were put in print.  I have taken great care, and have spent much time, in endeavoring to state the simple facts as correctly as possible.

On page 295 of the same volume, Sister White makes this request:

A special request is made that if any find incorrect statements in this book they will immediately inform me.  The edition will be completed about the first of October; therefore send before that time.

2.  All of Sister White's writings are not inspired in the same way that the Scriptures are inspired

She states that the Testimonies are not an addition to the Word of God (4T 246).  They would be an addition to the Bible were they similarly inspired.  That her writings are not equivalent to Scripture is implied also in the fact that belief in her prophetic gift is not to be made a test of fellowship (5T 668).

That her writings are not all inspired in the same way that the Holy Scriptures are inspired is evident further from the fact that large portions of some of her books have been borrowed -- often verbatim -- from profane history.  This was formerly done with no word of credit, expressed or implied, but is now admitted in the Introduction to Great Controversy thus:

In some cases where a historian has so grouped together events as to afford in brief, a comprehensive view of the subject, or has summarized details in a convenient manner, his words have been quoted; but in some instances no specific credit has been given, since the quotations are not given for the purpose of citing that writer as authority, but because his statement affords a ready and forcible presentation of the subject.

In the Great Controversy printed in 1887 there is no statement like the foregoing, no hint that any historian had been read or consulted, and some readers, at least, naturally concluded that every detail given was directly revealed in vision.  On the following pages of that edition (the eighth edition of Great Controversy) are uncredited statements of various historians which are given proper credit in the edition of 1911:

pages 64, 68, 76, 83, 84, 92, 96, 97, 98, 99, 102, 103, 104, 108, 109, 110, 111, 113, 114, 115, 116, 117, 119, 120, 121, 122, 124, 125, 126, 127, 128, 129, 130, 131, 133, 134, 135, 139, 140, 141, 142, 144, 146, 147, 148, 149, 154, 156, 157, 159, 160, 161, 162, 163, 164, 165, 166, 167, 168, 169, 170, 172, 173, 179, 204, 207, 217, 237. 

Most of these quotations or near-quotations are from D'Aubigne; a few are from others.  Completeness is not claimed for this list.

Some of the points to follow also bear on this matter of whether Sister White's writings are all inspired just as the Holy Scriptures are.

3.  The fact that she had visions and special revelations from the Lord for His people, did not enable her always to express her ideas clearly in writings, especially in her earlier works -- neither did it make her infallible on every subject mentioned in her writings. 

This is evident from various corrections and revisions that have been made in later editions to bring certain statements into harmony with the facts.  And in a few instances one statement seems to contradict another.

(a) In Great Controversy, edition of 1887, page 55, we read:   

A few years after the issue of Constantine's degree, the bishop of Rome conferred on the Sunday the title of Lord's day.

The fact is that Sunday was called the Lord's Day long before Constantine's degree (see Andrews' History of the Sabbath, pp. 342-379), and accordingly this statement is omitted in the edition of 1911.

(b)  In Great Controversy, edition of 1887, page 232, is this comment on Rev. 14:8,

It cannot be the Romish Church which is here meant; for that church has been in a fallen condition for many centuries.

In the 1911 edition, the Roman Church, which in 1887 was excluded, is definitely included by the addition of one word thus:

Therefore it cannot refer to the Roman Church alone, for that church has been in a fallen condition for many centuries.

It should be noted that the reason assigned: "for that church has been in a fallen condition for many centuries," fits the earlier version, but is absurdly incongruous in connection with the revision.  A more basic error is in assuming that what is intended in this prophecy is a moral fall.

(c) In Great Controversy, edition of 1911, at the bottom of page 324, begins this sentence:

Miller accepted the generally received view, that in the Christian age the earth is the sanctuary.

This is stated in explanation of how Miller arrived at his views of prophecy, preparatory to preaching them.  William Miller's published lectures show he did not believe that the sanctuary was the earth, but rather he believed that it was the church.  He says:

"Then shall the sanctuary be cleansed or justified," means the true sanctuary which God has built of lively stones to his own acceptance, through Christ, of which the temple of Jerusalem was but a type, the shadows having long since fled away. Miller's Lectures, edition 1842, p. 41. 

Again on this and the following page he says:

There is not a word in the prophets or apostles, after Zerubbabel built the second temple, that a third one would ever be built; except the one which cometh down from heaven, which is a spiritual one, and which is the mother of us all, (Jew and Gentile) and which is free, and when that New Jerusalem is perfected, then shall we be cleansed and justified...  We see by these texts ... that the spiritual sanctuary will not be cleansed until Christ's second coming; and then all Israel shall be raised, judged, and justified in his sight.

Similar references are to be found also on pages 156 and 281.  Some weeks after the spring equinox, 1844, one of the times set for the Advent, Miller seems once to have referred to the sanctuary as "the whole earth" (Sylvester Bliss, Memoirs of William Miller, pp. 256-260); but this is not consistent with his general teaching, and is too late to sustain Mrs. White's statement of his early views.

(d) In Great Controversy, edition of 1887, page 70, we read:

The Waldenses were the first of all the peoples of Europe to obtain a translation of the Scriptures.

This occurred about the year 1180.  According to I. M. Price, The Ancestry of Our English Bible, there were at least two earlier European versions: the Gothic in the fourth century, and the Slavonic.  "Some of the manuscripts of this version date from the tenth or eleventh century" (p. 104).  Accordingly in the Great Controversy, edition of 1911, we read:

The Waldenses were among the first of the peoples of Europe to obtain a translation of the Holy Scriptures.

(e) In Spiritual Gifts, Vol. iii, page 75, is this statement:

Every species of animal which God had created were preserved in the ark.  The confused species which God did not create, which were the result of amalgamation, were destroyed by the flood.  Since the flood there has been amalgamation of man and beast, as may be seen in the almost endless varieties of species of animals, and in certain races of men.

The precise meaning of this statement is difficult to ascertain.  But if it means what it seems to state, it is that since the Flood there has been an amalgamation of man and beast the offspring of which have been fertile and have reproduced themselves, thus multiplying species.  But all scientific evidence is against this, and one of the main arguments used by Seventh-day Adventists against evolutionists denies the possibility of such amalgamation.  The idea was not repeated in any later work by Mrs. White dealing with the same conditions.

(f) In Spiritual Gifts, Vol. iii, pp. 83-84, we read:

At the end of one thousand years, Jesus the king of glory, descends from the holy city, clothed with brightness like the lightning, upon the mount of olives [sic] -- the same mount from whence he ascended after his resurrection.  As his feet touch the mountain, it parts asunder, and becomes a very great plain, and is prepared for the reception of the holy city in which is the paradise of God, the garden of Eden, which was taken up after man's transgression.  Now it descends with the city, more beautiful and gloriously adorned than when removed from the earth.  The city of God comes down and the city surrounded by the redeemed host, and is escorted on his way by the angelic throng.  In fearful majesty he calls forth the wicked dead.  They are wakened from their long sleep.  What a dreadful waking.  They behold the Son of God in his stern majesty and resplendent glory.

From this it would seem that the wicked dead are not raised until after Christ, the saints, and the City, descend to this earth.  Compare with this Early Writings, p. 53:

Then at the close of the one thousand years, Jesus, with the angels and all the saints, leaves the holy city, and while he is descending to the earth with them, the wicked dead are raised, and then the very men that "pierced Him," being raised, will see Him afar off in all His glory, the angels and saints with Him, and will wail because of Him.

4.  Sister White's use of a certain version of the scriptures, does not guarantee that version the best, nor certainly correct in the very passage quoted. 

She quotes [for example] Matt. 23:24 from an erroneous translation in 1T 144, 4T 323, DA 617.

5.  Her use of Scripture language to express appropriate sentiments, does not mark that use as the only proper application of the passage so used, nor bind herself nor us to such an application, exclusive of any other. 

For she has sometimes used the same Scripture language to describe widely separated events.  Compare EW 53, where Rev. 1:7 is applied after the Millennium with GC 637 where the same verse is applied before the Millennium.  Also compare EW 36 with 6T 14 in their use of language from Rev. 11:18; and compare PP 686 with AA 266 and 6T 226 in their use of language from 2 Thess. 2:9.


Thus ends that which I wrote in
1928 or 1929 on the subject:

"Intelligent Use of the Testimonies."

 


Misery Likes Company

One year while I was at Union Spring Academy teaching Bible (1927 to 1930), one of the teachers called at my home near the close of a camp meeting held on the Academy grounds, and asked me whether I had not found some contradictions in Sister White's writings.   He admitted that he had, and that he had just asked Elder W. W. Prescott, who was at the campmeeting, whether there were not some contradictions in the Testimonies and he had said, "Yes, there are." Such a frank acknowledgement from so scholarly a representative of the General Conference greatly helped Brother ------- and me to maintain confidence in Sister White's prophetic gift in spite of the contradictions in her books.


Is This Contradiction Number 13
--

Or Have I Lost Count?

In 1930 I moved to Takoma Park to attend Washington Missionary College.  There I studied Greek.  One day Professor M. E. Cady, who lived across the street from me, asked me what I had found in my study of John the Baptist's diet, especially how it could be "wholly vegetable" (3T 62 and Christian Temperance, p. 38).  I avoided expressing an opinion but found that Professor Cady delighted in maintaining the purely vegetable nature of John's food.  A careful study of the Greek shows beyond the possibility of a doubt that John ate the regular insect locusts.  The Greek word has no other meaning.  It is never used for a bean-like pod as the English word "locust" is.  It is true that many otherwise renowned commentators have tried to "vegetablize" these locusts, but a squeamish stomach rather than their intellect controls their exegesis.  I have not found one of them who offers any valid evidence that the locusts could have been vegetable.  Thus we find a plain statement in Mrs. White's Testimonies directly contradicting the Bible.

Error Number Fourteen

While I was attending Washington Missionary College one of my history courses (semester ending Feb. 1, 1931) was about the French Revolution.  I chose for the subject of my term paper Religion and the French Revolution.  This subject appealed to me particularly because of my interest in the prophecy of Revelation 11 about the war on the "two witnesses," especially the time prophecy of "three days and an half" (verse 11) of which the statement is made in Great Controversy:

It was in 1793 that the decrees which abolished the Christian religion and set aside the Bible, passed the French Assembly.  Three years and a half later a resolution rescinding these decrees, thus granting toleration to the Scriptures, was adopted by the same body.  (GC 287)

I found that the facts were not as stated in Great Controversy.

That which follows, until notice is given otherwise, is from my term paper.
 

 
There is a prophecy often applied to this period of French history; therefore let us study it in this connection.  I refer to Revelation 11:7-13, and particularly to verses 9 and 11.  It is telling here of the war on the two witnesses -- God's Word -- by the beast from the bottomless pit.  These two verses last mentioned read:

And they of the people and kindreds and tongues and nations shall see their dead bodies three days and an half, and shall not suffer their dead bodies to be put in graves.

And after three days and an half the spirit of life from God entered into them, and they stood upon their feet; and great fear fell upon them which saw them.

Allowing these three days and a half to have their symbolic significance of three years and a half, they are sometimes begun with the events of November 1793.  And truly the French government did make war on Christianity and on the Bible.  The problem from a historical standpoint is to find three and one half years during which God's Word remained dead as a result of this government action, and after which period of three years and a half, the Bible was unusually exalted.  Eschewing any detailed exegesis of the prophecy, and limiting our study to the strictly historical, we shall find no such period of three and a half years in the events of Revolutionary France.  We shall find that the event usually suggested as terminating the period, either did not occur at the time indicated, or else was an affair of minor significance.  Furthermore, we shall discover that the intense antagonism to God and His Holy Book did not last nearly so long as three and a half years but ended after a few months.  A simple narration of the principal events of the Revolution, involving religion and the church, will make this all very clear.

The worship of Reason ... began early in November 1793.  It was November 26 when the Council of the Commune outlawed all other religions.  Previous acts of the revolutionary government had assured nominal liberty to worship to all; and just nine days after the Council of the Commune outlawed Christianity, the Convention, a superior governmental body, forbade violence contrary to liberty of worship.  And on May 9, 1784, the Convention under the influence of Robespierre, decreed the worship of the Supreme Being.  The government support of any worship was abolished September 20, 1794, without much discussion.  This automatically brought a considerable degree of religious liberty.  It is true that the non-juring priests still suffered some persecution, but this was far more from political than from religious animosity.

On February 21, 1795, Biossy d'Anglas made a speech and a motion for complete separation of Church and State.  This was passed, allowing any kind of religious worship throughout France, but with some restrictions as to place, advertising, endowments, etc.  The refractory clergy were still considered criminal, but this was a political matter, and could hardly be considered the death of God's Two Witnesses.  In the provinces there was much delay and opposition by local officials in permitting the liberty granted by the Convention.

A further attempt was made in late 1794 and early 1795 to revive interest in the tenth-day festivals in the hope of competing with Christianity and its weekly Lord's Day; but this effort was a ludicrous and dismal failure.

A new constitution was demanded to replace that of 1793.  Its formation was in the hands of comparatively moderate men.  Separation of Church and State and freedom of worship were incorporated in this new constitution.  It was adopted August 17, 1795.  Thus we see that in less than six months the atheistic enactment of November 26, 1793, was abrogated; and in less than two years there was actually greater religious freedom guaranteed on a fundamental legal basis, than existed prior to the outbreak of atheism.  The "Two Witnesses" just simply did not stay "dead" three and a half years.

Moreover, we can discover no adequately significant event coming even approximately three and a half years after the atheistic supremacy, to mark the close of the period.  Three and a half years from November 1793, would bring us to the spring of 1797.  It has been asserted that the Convention then repudiated its atheistic pronouncement.  History shows no such action.  In the first place, the Directory was in power, not the Convention, in 1797.  Furthermore, the atheistic intolerance had spent its force and had been repudiated by decree and by the new constitution of 1795, so this work did not remain to be done in 1797.

Others take an earnest speech by Camille Jordan, June 17, 1797, as the event closing the three and a half days.  On the contrary, this speech, instead of raising the "Two Witnesses," came at a time when they had been much alive for over a year; it dealt with minor phases of religious liberty such as the privilege of ringing church bells, and it failed in its object. 

Aulard (Vol. 17, p. 12) summarizes the incident thus:

Jordan, in a fulsomely sentimental and pseudo-pathetical speech, depicts all France as desolated by the loss of her church bells.  He earns the nickname of Bell-Jordan (Jordan Carillon), and his campaign fails.

The Cambridge Modern History says:

During the period between May 20 and September 4 the Corps Legislatif was again chiefly occupied with the questions of the émigrés and the clergy.  The clauses of the Law of October 25, 1795, relating to the relatives of émigrés, were repealed; and several deputies who had been rendered by this law incapable of sitting were allowed to take their seats.  A commission was appointed to consider the question of religious freedom.  On June 17 Camille Jordan made his celebrated report, which, with some modifications, formed the basis of a law passed on September 1 by which such communes as desired the services of a priest were declared at liberty to choose one, and the priest thus chooses was, after making a declaration of submission to the Republic, to be secured from legal prosecution; churches not otherwise disposed of could be appropriated to public worship; but no ecclesiastic might wear a distinctive costume, no religious ceremonies might take place outside the churches and no endowments might be given or bequeathed to any religious body.  This law, which was repealed immediately after the coup d'état of September, 1797, was put forward as one of the most obvious proofs of a "royalist conspiracy."  (Cambridge Modern History, Vol. iii, p. 507)

THE  CHURCH  UNDER
THE  DIRECTORY

The majority of the Directory were radical, and, of course, clashed with the moderate party on religious questions.  The government desired the downfall of the papacy, and urged Napoleon to bring it about.  But he felt that the time was not ripe for such a stroke, and so tried first to treat with the papacy.  He seems to have thought of the papacy as something to use rather than something to destroy.

About the middle of June 1797, Camille Jordan, as has been mentioned, made his famous speech favoring the readmittance of transported priests to the country, and freedom of all worships.  On July 8, this matter was defeated in the Council of the Five Hundred.  It was not until September 1 that the bill was passed, only to become at once inoperative after the coup d'état of September 4.

For a while the Directory went radical again.  Sieyes was given control until Bonaparte took charge, November 8.  The directory persecuted the refractory clergy, apparently from religious as well as political motives.  The celebration of the tenth-day was enforced by law, and various stringent bills against Sunday observance were introduced but not passed.  The people at this time would hardly tolerate a renewal or an increase of the use of the guillotine.  They were so tired of the excesses of the Revolution that they welcomed the military dictatorship established by the coup d'état of November 8.


(Here ends the extract from
my term paper.)


Allow me to state that my teacher was in no way responsible for these conclusions, as he had no idea what my theme was like until it was completed and handed in.  It was the result of my personal and independent study.

More recently Elder Jean Vuilleumier of France has had a series of articles in The Ministry ("The Two Witnesses in Prophecy," The Ministry, May, June, July, 1940), taking Jordan's speech of June 17, 1797 as the end of the prophetic period.  The articles in The Ministry led me to re-study the whole question, as my term paper was based entirely on secondary works.  Extensive research in the sources -- French as well as English -- as well as the study of additional secondary works, has abundantly confirmed the position taken in my term paper years ago, and has shown unmistakably the impossibility of Elder Vuilleumier's position.

I Dare to Speak

While living at Takoma Park (1930-34) I had a number of pleasant and profitable visits with Elder L. E. Froom.  One day while he was at my home he asked about my book, Prophetic Essays, and seemed to want me to say that if I had it to do now, I would not publish it.  I could not honestly say that.  But I did tell him that if I were to publish it again, I should use Sister White's writings differently, not making them the basis for deciding minute points of prophetic interpretation; for further study had led me to conclude that they were never intended for that purpose.  Elder Froom responded that a scholarly attitude toward the matter would not permit using the Testimonies to decide minute points of prophetic interpretation.  I asked him whether he had noticed the contradiction in Sister White's writings in the interpretation of 2 Thess. 2:9.  He had not, but would like the references.  So I wrote them out for him.  We have not discussed the matter since.

During these same years that I lived in Takoma Park (1930-34), I chanced to be one day in the office of a General Conference worker, a minister of life-long Denominational experience and service.  We were talking about some phase of the Reformation and the work of Luther.  This minister remarked very casually that if Sister White had read more widely concerning the Reformation and the life of Luther, not confining her reading so much to D'Aubigne, the book Great Controversy would doubtless not have presented so one-sided a viewpoint.

More and more it became clear to me that the more scholarly of the leading Seventh-day Adventist ministers had been forced to the same conclusion that I had, that the writings of Sister White are so permeated with human fallibility that they cannot be used consistently to settle minute details of history or even of Biblical exegesis or prophetic interpretation; but that they are as certainly so permeated with divine enlightenment as to be of inestimable value for spiritual inspiration and for inculcating the great principles of righteousness, and that she was a true prophet of God.

In 1934 I went to Southern Junior College to teach Bible.  Three successive summers, 1935, 1935, and 1937, I attended the Advanced Bible School of SDA Theological Seminary, two summers at Angwin, California, and one summer at Takoma Park, DC.

The summer of 1936 at the Advanced Bible School we read 2 Thess. in the advanced Greek class, translating verse 9 in accordance with Acts of the Apostles, p. 266, and contrary to Patriarchs and Prophets, p. 686.  After the class was dismissed, I asked the teacher privately whether he had ever noticed the contradiction between PP and AA on this verse.  He had not.  At first he tried to think that they could be interpreted to mean the same thing, but a few hours later he told me he had been studying on the matter and evidently I was correct in taking them to be contrary the one to the other.

In the summer of 1935 in Elder Andreasen's class in Systematic Theology, as we studied various ideas about "Inspiration," I found courage to ask in class whether possibly there might be a difference in kind or in degree of inspiration between some of Sister White's writings and other of her writings -- whether perhaps some parts were much like the Bible, and other parts were the result of special "illumination" -- a lesser kind of inspiration.  The class was large, but no one fainted away at the question.  Elder Andreasen in his customary tactful but non-committal way, gave a ready answer susceptible of various interpretations.  He thought that if time were to last indefinitely, and Sister White were to take her place with Isaiah and Jeremiah as prophets of permanent record, perhaps not more than a hundredth part of what she had written would be preserved as Bible.  This answer was surprisingly close to the idea I had in mind when I asked the question.

Disadvantages

I was successful in adjusting my idea of Sister White's writings to allow for the human element and the presence of inaccuracies, mistakes, and contradictions; while still I firmly maintained my faith in her visions as being from the Lord.  This attitude, while seeming to harmonize most of the phenomena, has two serious disadvantages.  

First: In the practical use of Sister White's writings, it leaves one with no sure guide as to what is accurate and what is not, and thus tends to vitiate all her writings so that they cannot be any final authority or last court of appeal.  It makes them powerless to "confirm" anything. 

Second: This attitude is not in harmony with the counsel in 5T 683-691, where such a distinction is criticized as "unwarranted."  It seemed, in view of the incontrovertible facts, that this counsel in 5T must be another instance of inaccuracy!

Advantages


One considerable practical advantage this attitude seemed to have: It divested of all interest the claims of opponents of Seventh-day Adventists that there are contradictions in the Testimonies.  When I heard some apostate trying to get Adventists to lose faith in the Testimonies because they contain contradictions, I would think: "So what?  Probably I could show you some that you don't know, but I am not interested; for the evidence that Sister White's visions were from the Lord are convincing enough regardless of a few exhibitions of human fallibility in her writings."

For years I felt keenly the danger of those who supposed Sister White's writings to be perfectly free from inaccuracies.  I wondered what would happen when they stumbled across a sure-enough contradiction.  I wished that I dared to enlighten my ministerial students on this matter, so they would not become the prey of designing apostates; but I never dared to for fear of being misunderstood or misquoted.  But I taught them the basic reasons which kept me loyal to Sister White and her work, and which I hoped would keep them even when they met the sudden shock of a contradiction in her writings.

Why I Still Believed in

Sister White

As I try to analyze my own thoughts on the subject as they were in about the year 1936, the points which outweighed all the contradictions and inaccuracies and kept me constant in the belief that Sister White was used of God in an extraordinary manner and that her visions were revelations of divine truth, were these.

That Sister White was controlled by a supernatural power seemed to be shown by her not breathing in vision, not winking, holding a heavy Bible aloft a long time, her knowledge of events taking place at a distance, etc.  If supernatural, such a power could be only from God or from Satan.  I could not see any possibility of her life and work being constantly and directly controlled by Satan.  That seemed the most unthinkable conclusion imaginable.  Her earnest, sincere Christian life forbids such a thought.  Her relation to the SDA Message and Movement forbids it to anyone who believes in that message and movement.  So when about the year 1936, the Elmshaven Estate sent a questionnaire asking how I presented the topic of Sister White's inspiration to my students, I replied somewhat as follows:

Mrs. White had visions and supernatural revelations.  Being supernatural, these manifestations were either the work of the Lord or the work of Satan.  They from the Lord because:

1. The genuineness of Mrs. White's personal Christian experience cannot be doubted.

2.  The effect of her work is to promote holiness and practical godliness.

3.  Her gift has been so closely identified with the rise and progress of the message and work of the Seventh-day Adventists that the sources of her gift must be also the source of the Movement.

4.  The gift of prophecy was Scripturally promised to the Remnant Church.
 

In 1937 the President of Southern Junior College, after hearing me present this subject to a Baptismal Class, asked me privately what I did with seeming contradictions.  I told him that they were regrettable but insufficient to over-balance the evidence for Sister White's having received special light from heaven in visions and dreams, which light we should disregard at our peril.  He seemed pleased and satisfied with my answer.

By the date last mentioned, 1937, it was clear to me from the evidence herein presented that Sister White's writings are sufficiently inaccurate to be an unsafe guide in matters of fact in history or science or even in Biblical exegesis and prophetic interpretation.  I could no longer feel sure that a thing was so just because she said it was so.  I felt that my attitude was not that of the average Seventh-day Adventist, but that it was that of many, perhaps of most, of the more studious and scholarly Seventh-day Adventists.  My realization of the unrealiability of Sister White's writings was so acute that I should not have been able to think of them as a manifestation of the Prophetic Gift had not I been faced with the alternative of attributing her work to Satan.  That was, is yet, and I think will always be for me utterly impossible.

This conclusion -- that Sister White's visions were supernatural revelations from heaven, and that her voluminous writings, though sometimes erroneous, benefits more or less from the light thus received, left some problems unsolved, for example how an angel could speak words (EW 294) misinterpreting the "worm" of Mark 9:48 and Isaiah 66:24.  I just tried not to think about that.


 

 

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Ellen G. White

Early Critics
       
Lucinda Burdick
       O.R.L. Crosier 
       Snook & Br'hoff
       H. E. Carver  
       Miles Grant
       Charles Lee 
       Blanchard 
       Norwich Tract 

Men of Battle Creek 
       A. T. Jones - 1
       A. T. Jones - 2 
                .
       "To those who
       are perplexed"

       David Paulson 
       William Sadler 
       Charles Stewart 
       A. T. Jones 
                .
       JHK Interview 
       Merritt Kellogg 
       A. T. Jones - 3 

Later Critics 
       A. F. Ballenger
 
       E. S. Ballenger 

 
 

Wm. Miller / 1844
      

      
An Exposition of
       the Prophecies,
       Supposed by Wm.
       Miller to Predict
       the Second
       Coming in 1843
       (1840)
      
       Miller Over-
       thrown:  Or, the
       False Prophet
       Confounded
       (1840)
      
       Canright on Wm.
       Miller
       (1889)

 

The Shut Door
      

      
The Camden
      
Vision Genuine
       (1979) 

 

The Sanctuary
      

      
Canright on the
      
Sanctuary
       (1889; 1919) 


      
Cast Out for the
       Cross of Christ
       (1909) 

 

The Sabbath
 
       
The $200 Text:
       A Written Dis-
       cussion of the
       Sabbath

 



The Reason Why

Introduction   
Chapter 5 
      Example A

            .
      More on EGW &
       Daniel March
           
.


Example A has about
40 pages on
E. G. White's copying from D. March.

"More on EGW & Dan- iel March" has another
5 that serve as a sum- ming up.



The Bible & the
Bible Only

#  1 - The Millennium

#  2 - The Seven 
         Churches of
         Revelation

#  3 - Precious Gems
         from the
         Scriptures

#  4A - The 70 Weeks
         of Daniel 9

#  4B - The 70 Weeks:
         More Evidence

#  5 - God's Rest

#  6 - Armegeddon

#  7 - The Image to 
         the Beast

#  8 - The Flying 
         Scroll

#  9 - The Scroll with
         the Seven Seals

#10 - The 1st & 2nd
         Resurrections

#11 - The Lamb-like
         Beast

#12 - The Rapture:
         Is it Scriptural?

#13 - The Israelites:
         From Calvary
         to Canaan

#14 - The Sinaitic
         Covenant

#15 - Satan's Life
         Cycle

#16 - The 3 Angels'
         Messages

#17 - The Second
         Coming

#18 - Are God's
         Promises All
         Conditional?

#19 - The 144,000

#20A - Everlasting
         Hell Fire

#20B - Our Immortal
         Soul

#21 - How Are We
         Born Again?

#22 - Jewelry and
         Meat Eating

#23A - Everlasting
         Gospel

#23B - What Harm
         Has Been Done?

#24 - The Seal of God
         and the Mark
         of the Beast

#25 - The Day of
         the Lord

#26 - Once Saved,
         Always Saved?

#27 - The Seventh day
         versus Sunday

#28 - The Awesome
         Statue of Dan. 2

#29 - Is the Sabbath
         Commandment
         Abolished?

#30 - The Doctrines
         of Demons

#31 - Is God for Real?

#32 - The Lord's
         Remnant

#33 - The 3 Temples

#34 - The Heavenly
         Pregnancy

#35 - The 2 Witnesses

#36 - The Shut Door

37A - God's Restora-
          tion of literal
          Israel

37B - Replacement
          Theology

38A - Dispensational-
          ism   Part One

38B - Dispensational-
          ism   Part Two

#39 - Beasts of Dan. 7

#40 - Beasts of Dan. 8

#41 - The Best Dry
          Bones

 
 


Personal Experi- ences

Former SDAs  
       
D. M. Canright 
       Henry Brown 
       Harold Snide 1 
       Harold Snide 2 
       Monica Vowless 
       Pat Darnell 
       Ron Numbers 
       Jim Moyers 
       Paul Cales 
       Geneva Chinnock
       Wallace Slattery
       Tom Durst
       Jack Gent

Others  
      
A WCG Couple
       Mormon #1
 
                 .
      
Letters to Mor
       mon #1

                  .
 
       Mormon #2 
       Mormon #3 
       Mormon #4 

      
A JW
 

LINKS  --  for further reading