Doctrines  of  Demons

 

 

 

The Millennium The Seven Churches Precious Gems Seventy Weeks (A)
Seventy Weeks (B) God's Rest Armageddon Image to the Beast
The Flying Scroll The Seven Seals The Resurrections The Lamblike Beast
The Rapture? The Israelites Sinaitic Covenant Satan's Life Cycle
3 Angels' Messages The Second Coming Conditional? The 144,000
Ever Burning Hellfire Our Immortal Soul How Born Again? Meat and Jewelry
Everlasting Gospel What Harm? Mark of the Beast Day of the Lord
Once Saved, Always? 7th Day vs. Sunday The Awesome Statue Sabbath Abolished?
Doctrines of Demons Is God for Real? The Lord's Remnant The Three Temples
A Heavenly Pregnancy The Two Witnesses The Shut Door Restoration of Israel
Replacement Theology Dispensationalism Pt.1 Dispensationalism Pt.2 Beasts of Daniel 7
Beasts of Daniel 8 Dry Bones    

 

 

  

 

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Doctrines  of

Demons

 


Could God have been revealing to Paul
the doctrines of a specific church

in the Latter Days?

Read the following material
before answering
that question!




What does the Bible say about it?

 

 

 

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by

Jack Gent

 

 

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1 Tim. 4:1-5  --  The Spirit clearly says that in later times some will abandon the faith and follow deceiving spirits and things taught by demons.   Such teachings come through hypocritical liars, whose consciences have been seared as with a hot iron.  They forbid people to marry and order them to abstain from certain foods, which God created to be received with thanksgiving by those who believe and who know the truth.  For everything God created is good, and nothing is to be rejected if it is received with thanksgiving, because it is consecrated by the word of God and prayer.

While the preceding passage may have applications to various denominations that profess to be followers of Christ, I can find only one that the entire passage fits.  Could it be that the Holy Spirit was telling us, through Paul, about the source of unscriptural doctrines that an end time church would be promoting?  Also note the warning by Jude as to the necessity of holding on to the faith that had been delivered to the saints.

Jude 3  --  Dear friends, since I am eager to begin a letter to you on the subject of our common salvation, I find myself constrained to write and cheer you on to the vigorous defense of the faith delivered once for all to God's people.   (Weymouth)

I would like to, first of all, concentrate on Paul's statement above: "In later times some will abandon the faith and follow deceiving spirits and things taught by demons."  I would like to give a few recorded instances where this appears to have taken place.

In 1856 there was a conference meeting held in the Battle Creek Tabernacle.  Ellen White states that while there she was taken off in vision, and some things concerning the SDA church were revealed to her.  She had an angel guide who gave her a guided tour as she continually initiated various scenes by the statement: "Said the angel."  A couple of important quotes are taken from this vision which she has listed as Testimony # 2.

         At the conference at Battle Creek, May 27, 1856, I was shown in vision some things that concern the church generally.  The glory and majesty of God were made to pass before me.  Said the angel: "He is terrible in His majesty, yet ye realize it not, etc..."
         I was shown the company present at the con- ference.  Said the angel: "Some food for worms, some subjects of the seven last plagues, some will be alive and remain upon the earth to be translated at the coming of Jesus."
         Solemn words were these, spoken by the angel... 
                               Testimonies Vol. 1,

                               pp. 127-132.

There were 61 members present for this meeting.  A list of each person in attendance, including infants, was carefully maintained as all believed with total conviction that Jesus would come while some of those on the list were still alive.  The youngest infant to attend that meeting has now been dead for about 50 years.  No question about it, that prophecy failed.

An angel from heaven does not come to earth to give anyone his thoughts on future events.  He always comes with a message from God.  If it is a conditional message it will be so stated.  This message was in no way conditional.

Deut. 18:22  --  If what a prophet proclaims in the name of the Lord does not take place or come true, that is a message the Lord has not spoken.   That prophet has spoken presumptuously.

This was an "angel" proclaiming a prophecy in the name of the Lord.  If it was an angel from heaven that is the only type of message that he proclaims.  Since the prophecy obviously failed, he had to be an angel messenger that Paul described as a deceiving spirit.  In no way could it be an angel sent by God.

Notice the description of a vision that Ellen White received, in her own words:

Sabbath, March 24, 1849  --  We had a sweet and very interesting meeting with the brethren at Topsham, Me.  The Holy Ghost was poured out upon us, and I was taken off in the Spirit to the city of the living God.  There I was shown that the commandments of God, and the testimony of Jesus, relating to the shut door, could not be separated.

The last half of the vision addresses a problem that worried believers in the "Shut Door" theory.  If the door was shut, no further conversions were possible.  No one who was unconverted before October 22, 1844, could after that date be converted.  Yet, as opponents of the Shut Door continually pointed out, sinners continued to accept Christ and become Christians -- for instance, at the great crusades then being held by Moody and Sankey.  These apparent conversions, which seemed to prove that the door wasn't shut, was a problem that was taken up and answered by the vision.

         I saw that Satan was working through agents, in a number of ways.  He was at work through ministers, who have rejected the truth, and are given over to strong delusions to believe a lie that they might be damned.  While they were preaching, or praying, some would fall and helpless, not by the power of the Holy Ghost, no, no, but by the power of Satan breathed upon these agents and through them to the people.  Some professed Adventists who had rejected the present truth (former Millerites who rejected the Sabbath and the Shut Door), while preaching, praying or in conversation used Mesmerism to gain adherents, and the people would rejoice in this influence, for they thought it was the Holy Ghost...   (They) were so far in the darkness and deception of the devil, that they thought it was the power of God...  I saw that the ... false reformations would increase and spread.  The reformations that were shown me, were not reformations from error to truth, but from bad to worse; for those who professed a change of heart, had only wrapt about them a religious garb, which covered up the iniquity of a wicked heart.  Some appeared to have been really converted, so as to deceive God's people (i.e., make them think the Door wasn't shut); but if their hearts could be seen, they would appear as black as ever.
         My accompanying angel bade me look for the travel (travail) of soul for sinners as used to be.  I looked, but could not see it; for the time of their salvation is passed.

The time for the salvation of sinners is past.  This is the Shut Door, pure and simple.  Again this was all pointed out to her by an angel from heaven while she was in vision; according to her account.

Again, I ask, could this be an angel from heaven that was revealing all this to her?  I believe this has to be another instance where their faith was abandoned in order to be deceived by deceiving spirits and things taught by demons.

Six days following the vision of March 24, 1849, Ellen wrote out a copy of it and sent it to her friends, the Hastings.

Ellen White.  Letter to Brother and Sister Hastings (March 30, 1849) --
 
 

 

I will now write you the vision God gave me on the Sabbath, the 24th of March.  We had a glorious meeting.  I was taken off in vision...

[She relates the vision in which she was bidden by an angel to look for the former travail of soul for sinners but could not find it because the time for their salvation was past.  She then says:]

Dear Brother and Sister, I have now written the vision God gave me.  I am tired of sitting so long.  Our position looks very clear.  We know we have the truth, the Midnight Cry is behind us, the door was shut in 1844.

 

 
 

Could an angel that showed the truth of the Shut Door have possibly been an angel from God?  If not, then what kind of angel must it have been?

Note again what Paul prophesies about the promoter of these demonic-based teachings.   He says: "Such teachings come through hypocritical liars."

Webster's New Collegiate Dictionary -- hypocrite -- one who affects virtues or qualities he does not have.

He says further that they "order them (church members) to abstain from certain foods, which God created to be received with thanksgiving by those who believe and know the truth."  Quite clearly he is describing a hypocite who orders followers to abstain from certain foods.  Now observe the application of the description:

It has been clearly presented to me that God's people (SDAs) are to take a firm stand against meat eating.  Would God for thirty years give His people the message (received in mid 1860's by Ellen White in "vision") that if they desire to have pure blood and clear minds they must give up the use of flesh meat, if He did not want them to heed this message?  By the use of flesh meats the animal nature is strengthened and the spiritual nature weakened.
                              Counsels on Diet and Foods,

                              p. 383.

You would naturally conclude that if anyone received a vision from God that meat eating should have no place in the diet of a follower of Christ, that would be sufficient to cause instant and permanent change to a vegetarian diet.  But was that the case?

I believe this can be best answered by an incident that occurred in 1906.  Ellen White claimed that in vision she saw various men of leadership in the Adventist Church who were questioning her validity as God's messenger to the Adventist Church.  She wrote to each of them telling them to write out their concerns about her.
 

 
 
Testimony dated March 30, 1906

         Recently in the visions of the night I stood in a large company of people.  There were present Dr. Kellogg, Elders Jones, Tenny and Taylor, Dr. Paulson, Elder Sadler, Judge Arthur and many of their associates.  I was directed by the Lord to request them and any others who have perplexities and grievous things in their minds regarding the testimonies that I have borne, to specify what their objections and criticisms are.  The Lord will help me to answer these objections, and to make plain that which seems to be intricate.
         Let those who are troubled now place on paper a statement of the difficulties that perplex their minds...  They should certainly do this, if they are to be loyal to the directions God has given.
 
 

 
Dr. Charles Stewart was one of these people who responded to her request.  One of the items that had troubled him was on the topic of eating meat and her lack of compliance.  Note his concern:

 

 

1868  --  Testimonies for the Church, Vol. 2.

No butter or flesh meats of any kind come on my table.

1869  --  Testimonies for the Church, Vol. 3.

I have not changed my course a particle.  Since I adopted the health reform, I have not taken one back step.

1870  --  Testimonies for the Church, Vol. 3.

Above all things we should not with our pen advocate positions that we do not put to a practical test in our own families, upon our own tables.  This is dissimulation, a species of hypocrisy.

1894  --  August 30  --  Written Testimony.

When the selfishness of taking the lives of animals to gratify perverted appetite was presented to me by a Catholic woman, I felt ashamed and distressed.  I saw it in a new light and I said, "I will no longer patronize the butcher, I will not have the flesh of slain animals on my table."

1898  --  October 5, Sunnyside, Coorenbong.

Not a particle of meat has been upon my table for the past five years.  I found that I could take no half and half ground.  I must be firm and decided in regard to my diet.

 

 
 

Dr. Stewart comments: 
 
 

 

In 1868 you say:

"No... flesh meats of any kind come on my table."

The following year you state:

"I have not changed my course a particle."

In that same testimony you state:

"I broke away from everything at once -- from meat" etc.  "I left off these things from principal."

But in 1898 you state:

"Not a particle of meat has been on my table in any shape for the last five years"

-- which means that before then, before 1893, meat did come upon your table.

This conjecture is confirmed by the testimony of three parties, all Seventh-day Adventists, two of them officials with the denomination, who state that for years after receiving the light on health reform you ate meat and oysters.  Two of these persons have told me personally that you ate oysters in their home, on one occasion as late as 1890.  Another stated he saw you eating oysters in a restaurant.  If you deny that you ate oysters, and state that the statement of these men are false, I will make an affidavit to this effect and give you their names that you can ask them for an explanation.

In your various testimonies you state:

Series B, No. 6, p. 31  -- 

"God gave the light on health reform, and those who rejected it rejected God."

Testimony to Irwin, Prescott, Waggoner, and Jones.  Feb. 21, 1899.  --

"Those who do not accept the light God has given on health reform, who subsist on the flesh of dead animals, can not represent the truth to others."

Testimonies Vol. 6, p. 37,38  -- 

"No one should be set apart as a teacher of the people while his example contradicts the testimony God has given in regard to diet.  His disregard of health reform unfits him to stand as the Lord's messenger."

 

 
 
Stewart comments further: --
 
 

 
 
In patronizing the butcher and having meat upon your table, were you not practicing dissimulation, a species of hypocrisy, in that you were advocating a position with your pen that you did not put in practice upon your table?

Since you ate meat and oysters after the light on these articles first shone upon your pathway, and thus went contrary to light God had given you, were you not placing yourself in that class described thus:

"Those who rejected (the light on health reform) rejected God."

"Those who subsist on the flesh of dead animals can not represent the truth to others."

"Those who disregard health reform are unfit to stand as the Lord's messenger."

During the years in which you ate meat, and thus went against light given you by God -- were your writings just as truly from the Lord as when you were living up to all the light you had?

 

 
 

Dr. Stewart charges Ellen White with a species of hypocrisy by advocating a position with her pen which she did not put in practice upon her table.  Wouldn't this qualify as an example of hypocritical liars presenting things taught by demons?  We know they are doctrines not found in the Bible.  We also know that she never answered Dr. Stewart's letter as she had promised to do.

Let me demonstrate how little by little simple straightforward texts in the Bible are altered or radically changed.  Then the altered text becomes the norm and the Bible text it came from is no longer the current version to believe by her faithful adherents.

Notice Moses' account of the flood where God added flesh food to the human diet, after the flood.

Gen. 9:1-3  --  Then God blessed Noah and his sons, saying to them, "Be fruitful and increase in numbers and fill the earth.  The fear and dread of you will fall upon all the beasts of the earth and all the birds of the air, upon every creature that moves along the ground and upon all the fish of the sea; they are given into your hands.  Everything that lives and moves will be food for you.  Just as I gave you the green plants, I now give you everything."

This is a clear, straightforward statement, very easy to understand.  Now notice how Ellen transposes this statement to mean something completely unstated.  It's not just paraphrased but completely changed:

God gave man no permission to eat animal food until after the flood.   Everything had been destroyed upon which man could subsist, and therefore the Lord in their necessity gave Noah permission to eat of the clean animals which he had taken with him into the ark.
                              Counsels on Diet and Foods,

                              p. 373.

This represents her attempt to show that the Sinaitic Covenant was in force from the time of Eden, but the Bible nowhere supports that theory.  Which one do we believe -- Moses or Ellen White?  I personally feel safer with Moses.

Now notice how Paul recommends responding to an invitation to a meal.  He is speaking to the members of the Christian Church in Corinth.  Corinth was a pagan city and he is discussing how you would respond to a pagan invitation to a meal.

1 Cor. 10:25-27  --  Eat anything sold in the meat market without raising questions of conscious, for, "The earth is the Lord's, and everything in it."  (Sounds like eat anything that lives and moves.)  If some unbeliever invites you to a meal and you want to go, eat whatever is placed before you without raising questions of conscience.

Now notice the advice Ellen White gives in a similar setting, although not necessarily a non-Christian invitation.

We must practice what we preach.  When sitting at a table where meat is provided, we are not to make a rail upon those who use it, but we should let it alone ourselves, and when asked our reasons for doing this, we should in a kindly manner explain why we do not use it.
                              Counsels on Diet and Foods,

                              p. 462.

If the dietary restrictions as given to the Israelites in the Sinaitic Covenant are binding on us today -- then the advice given by Ellen White is the only proper answer.  If that covenant with all its rules and regulations were nailed to the cross as the Bible clearly states, then Paul's instructions are the proper approach to this problem.  Once again we are brought to the place where we must choose whether to follow the advice of Paul or Ellen White.  It is not only these two illustrations, but all through the Bible we are confronted with similar contradictions.

A meat diet changes the disposition and strengthens animalism.  We are composed of what we eat, and eating much flesh will diminish intellectual activity.   Students would accomplish much more in their studies if they never tasted meat.  When the animal part of the human agent is strengthened by meat eating, the intellectual powers diminish proportionately.  A religious life can be more successfully gained and maintained if meat is discarded, for this diet stimulates into intense activity lustful propensities, and enfeebles the moral and spiritual stature.
                              Counsels on Diet and Foods,

                              p. 389.

Are you now becoming less surprised that this teaching, supposedly given by a vision from God, is nowhere to be found in Scripture?  Could this be more of those things taught by deceiving spirits?  Is the story of Jesus feeding the 5,000 compatible with the above?

Mark 6:31-44  --  Then, because so many people were coming and going that they did not even have a chance to eat, he (Jesus) said to them, "Come with me by yourselves to a quiet place and get some rest.  So they went away by themselves in a boat to a solitary place.  But many who saw them leaving recognized them and ran on foot from all the towns and got there ahead of them.  When Jesus landed and saw a large crowd, he had compassion on them, because they were like sheep without a shepherd.  So he began teaching them many things.
         By this time it was late in the day, so his disciples came to him.  "This is a remote place," they said, "and it's already very late.  Send the people away so they can go to the surrounding countryside and buy themselves something to eat."...
         "How many loaves do you have?" he asked.  "Go and see."
         When they found out, they said, "Five -- and two fish."
         Then Jesus directed them to have all the people sit down in groups on the green grass.  So they sat down in groups of hundreds and of fifties.  Taking the five loaves and two fish and looking up to heaven, he gave thanks and broke the loaves.  Then he gave them to his disciples to set before the people.  He also divided the two fish among them all.
         They all ate and were satisfied, and the disciples picked up twelve basketfuls of broken pieces of bread and fish.  The number of men who had eaten was five thousand.

Wouldn't this have been the perfect place for Jesus to teach the large crowd that eating fish and meat causes their animal passions to take over?  -- that the dulling of their intellect would hamper their understanding of what He had been instructing them.  Can you imagine Him not doing this if indeed it would cause this to happen?

There is an alarming lethargy shown on the subject of unconscious sensualism.  It is customary to eat the flesh of dead animals.  This stimulates the lower passions of the human organism.
                              Counsel on Diet and Foods,

                              p. 389.

Now, note the contrary point of view of Paul.  He is telling the early Christians their need to realize that the Sinaitic Covenant with its rules and regulations on food consumption is no longer binding.

Col. 2:20-23  --  Since you died with Christ to the basic principles of this world, (Sinaitic Covenant) why, as though you still belonged to it, do you submit to its rules: "Do not handle!  Do not taste!  Do not touch!"?  (Instructions in the covenant on unclean meats.)  These are all destined to perish with use, but they are based on human commands and teachings.   Such regulations indeed have an appearance of wisdom, with their self-imposed worship, their false humility and their harsh treatment of the body, but they lack any value in restraining sensual indulgence.

It almost seems like Paul had just finished reading Counsels on Diet and Foods before making the preceding statement.  I believe something more certain had prompted his response.  It was the Holy Spirit revealing to him what would be promoted in later times.

Now I would like to take up the last to be discussed item in Paul's description of things taught by demons: "They forbid people to marry."

Admittedly there is much less available to us on this qualifying item than the others.  This is due to the fact that the material has been suppressed.  Material for this segment of this booklet is obtained from excerpts from Limboline.  This material in Limboline was introduced during 1984.

The following are excerpts from letters written by Paul Barker of Mt. Vernon, Washington, to Eryl Cummings, Farmington, New Mexico during the period of 1974 to 1982.  He was writing about the testimony DF97-C, which he claims was suppressed.

 

 

Mrs. White wrote a testimony to the effect that the coming of the Lord was so close that no marriages should be made in the denomination and those members who were married should live as "chaste virgins..."

That testimony was read before gatherings of the people but was evidently destroyed when it met with so much resistance and the only proof of its previous existence can be had only from those who heard it read or was an eye witness to the consternation it caused.

"Dudley Carrier (of Grandview, Washington) heard it read...  Carrier was only a boy and not allowed in the meeting where this testimony was read, but he said that he crawled under the side of the tent where it was being read in a camp meeting and heard it read...  This testimony caused pandemonium to reign in the church and soon they repudiated it and now they deny it ever happened...

... Many is the time I have sat in church and listened to the minister tell how Satan tempted him during the night and how he fell, while the tears streamed down his cheeks and being a boy of only five or six years old I wondered what kind of sin the man committed in the ‘dark hours of the night.’

I mentioned this incident to the ex-editor of the Signs and he at once informed me that he had heard of this incident and had tried to pin it down but was never able to find out anything about it.  The wife's folks also know the circumstances and according to (my sister) Cora, they often mentioned it.  They were both avid believers in Mrs. White's inspiration...

The wife tells of one man who got up before the church and confessed that Satan tempted him during the night and that he got up, went out in the snow and knelt down by a haystack and gained the victory...

... Many tried to live up to her instructions.  I sat in the Adventist church in Missoula, Montana, and heard the minister, Rollin D. Quinn, get up before the congregation and with tears streaming down his cheeks confess that Satan had tempted him during the dark hours of the night and he had sinned, but with God's help he would stand firm from now on, only to repeat the scene the following Sabbath.

One minister told my father that he did not dare trust himself home with his wife, so he had her meet him at the depot and visit with him as he went from one assignment to another.  How many people Mrs. White caused to sin by violating their conscience -- only God knows.  The thing has been so completely covered up that only a handful of people are left on this earth who know the real story.

... (In 1934) while rummaging through Mrs. White's vault, a man by the name of S. A. Nagle found this testimony (DF97-C) and as he was printing a book on Mrs. White's inspiration, confirming the belief that she was inspired, he incorporated this testimony in the book, and when the book was printed the big boys at headquarters blew their top and called him up on the green carpet for printing this testimony.  As he believed in her inspiration, they were able to make him recant by showing him that Mrs. White said that the General Conference body was God's highest authority on earth.  He surrendered the four hundred books to them and they destroyed them all except one that he mailed to Dudley Carrier and one he mailed to a friend in California, so only two of those books remain to bear witness to the testimony.
 
 

 

I believe a letter written to W. C. White (Ellen White's youngest son) on the topic is helpful.

 

 

                                                              Loma Linda, Calif.
                                                              Dec. 21, 1921

Dear Brother White:

... I will try to answer your "secondly."  It is a subject
that I have felt I should not perhaps talk about and so have remained silent, as we have had no instructions in recent years along those lines.

Going back to the first that I heard in regard to this question, Sister White called a private meeting on the campground in East Portland in 1884 to which all the workers were invited, and all the Seventh-day Adventist parents...  I cannot remember all she said, but ... (she) made it very emphatic that it was too late for workers to raise families, remarking that there was none too much of any of us to put all our lives into the cause...

About 8 months later a second addition was made to our family.  Soon after this, we received a letter from your mother in her own handwriting, asking if we were not present at the camp-meeting when she delivered her special message to the workers and asking why we pursued the course we had.  And if we continued along that course, it would take us out of the work...

This subject was very widely agitated in those days, causing much perplexity among the young married people.  As time passed and the Savior has not come, the children then born into the world are carrying grave responsibilities in the cause.  Much has been said by those living in those days that Sr. White made a grave mistake in presenting the subject to our people which has caused much adverse criticism upon your mother's writings.  I have met it a number of times that, "if she was wrong in this instruction, why not in other lines?"

I do wish that this matter might be put in a right light, and not used to discredit the testimonies; but just how to do it requires more wisdom than I possess.

Hoping you may have grace from God to do your part,

                    Your Sister in Christ,

                                                  Mrs. M. S. Boyd

 

 

Now let us examine a portion of the testimony (DF97-C), obtained from the book printed by S. A. Nagle.

 

 

This is the burden of the message, that in accordance with our faith we are required to make any and every sacrifice for the truth's sake; that at this time, when amid the trials of the last days, it was not in accordance with our faith or God's will, that our missionaries should fill their hands with cares and burdens which were not essential to the work...

The message we have to bear requires much self-sacrifice, and if the workers make no change in their habits and in their practices, than worldlings in general, they are not letting their works correspond with their faith.  I was shown that Brother and Sister Horn had departed from God's counsel in bringing into the world children.  God required all there was of them in his work, and both could have done a good work for the Master, but the enemy came in, and his counsel was followed, and the cause of God was robbed of the attention it should have had...  They were doing a work which was bringing upon them cares and burdens and retarding the work that God had given them to do.  God will say to them, "Who required this at your hands?"

...When I learned that you were to soon have an increase in your family, I knew that you were not doing the will of God, but following your own inclination -- to please yourselves.  I have special light in regard to these things; but hardly know how to present it.  The missionaries had better set the people an example in these things that correspond with our faith...

I am distressed as I see the state of things among our workers.  Brother and Sister Enoch professed gave themselves to the missionary work...  How much better would have been their influence if they had not married, but both devoted their interests in God's cause, and after they were married, how much better for them if they had thoughtfully considered the situation, and decided that God should have all the power he had given them in the work of saving precious souls.

Brother Cudney could have done a very good work for the Master, had he devoted himself to this work as the Lord's servant.  When married, his work has not been more than one half what it might have been.  Then he must bring a child into the world, and now he can do one-third what he might have done had he studied how he could but serve God who called him to be a soldier of the cross of Christ.

If our workers were walking close to God, they see the situation, and would feel that it was no matter of rejoicing to bring a child into the world.  A blessing is pronounced upon the eunuchs who keep the Sabbath (Isa. 65:3-5).

The time has come when, in one sense, they that have wives be as though they have none.  God wants us to be consistent people, our works corresponding to our faith ...

I am thoroughly disgusted with the course of our preachers and workers...

 

 

Following the appearing of this material in Limboline, the editor received the following letter regarding this suppressed testimony.

 

 

In the 7th January, 1984 Limboline, you printed a cluster of items relating to Ellen White's suppressed testimony, DF97-C, counseling against marriage and procreation.

It might help to let your readers know that sometime in 1982 White Estate Secretary, Robert Olson, put a researcher on the trail of this document, at my request.  When it was located, Elder Olson sent a copy to the Loma Linda University Heritage Room.

There is somewhat more written in this testimony than was published in Sherman Nagel's book.  In fact, there are a number of ellipses in the White Estate Ms. 34, 1885 transcript, suggesting that original material is missing even there!

You no doubt will notice that the testimony was written just years (3) after James White's death.  With her husband gone and her own children grown, it was easier for Ellen White to counsel against marriage and child bearing -- especially because she was certain that the Lord's return was imminent.

The future turns out to have been as opaque to Ellen White as it is to the rest of us.

                                                    Douglas Hackleman

 

 

In view of Paul's statement that these teachings came through hypocritical liars, I find an editorial comment in the compiler of their material from Limboline to be on track:

Also interesting is to note that DF97-C applies ever so aptly to Ellen herself.  She -- claiming to be the prophet for earth's final days -- yet went ahead, and in rapid succession, had four children.

I believe that we now have studied enough of her teachings and the proof of its source that some of it was undeniably received from deceiving spirits.  Would God have given us any clue for the honest in heart to see this connection?  I would like to present the first two verses of 1 Tim. 4 as translated by the NEB.

1 Tim. 4:1,2  --  The Spirit says expressly that in aftertimes some will desert from the faith and give their minds to subversive doctrines inspired by devils, through the specious falsehoods of men whose own conscience is branded with the devil's sign.

I believe most all are acquainted with the devil's sign as referring to his activities in the latter days.  It is best expressed in that dreaded sign of 666.

In the late 1960's my oldest son was a student at what is now Southern University, Collegedale, Tennessee.  During a class discussion of the beast of Rev. 13, that comes up out of the earth and has the number of 666 as an identifying marker.  The teacher casually remarked that Ellen White's name added up to 666 when counting each letter by the usual Roman Numeral value for each letter.
 

 
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L     50
L     50
E       0
N       0
       
----
  
  100
 


G         0
O        0
U        5
L      50
D    500
      
------
     555


W      10
H       0
I        1
T       0
E       0
       
----
       11

100
555
  11
----------
666

 
I'm sure the teacher and the class all agreed that this had to be an unusual but irrelevant quirk of happenstance.

I'm not so sure that this is the case.  I believe that if God selected Ellen White to be His messenger to His "remnant church" that He would not have allowed her to be saddled with this onerous marker.  I believe it is much more likely that He placed this number on her to help us to realize the source of the material that we have come to believe above the writings of the Bible itself.

We know she is not the Antichrist beast as he will be on earth and alive during the great tribulation just before Christ's coming.  Anti-Christ means in place of Christ.  Most all her doctrines replace Christ with endless tasks and non-Scriptural duties never suggested by New Testament instructions.  The many beautiful quotations she plagiarized from mostly godly non-Adventist writers are a smoke screen to help us to swallow the poison.

How many times have each one of us heard the warning that the closer that error is to the truth, the greater its power to deceive.  Adventists quote that frequently, but never apply it to themselves.

While Ellen White is not the Antichrist, her material can be shown to have been supplied by him.  She certainly is guilty of teaching non-Scriptural doctrines which are in opposition to plain instructions as presented in the Bible.

I believe the only escape from this "quicksand" of toxic doctrines is to study these topics from the Bible and remember to check everything by its teachings and realizing that a word from Ellen White is not synonymous with a word from God.  Ask the Holy Spirit in all sincerity to show you what is truth and be prepared to discard any doctrine you are not able to verify from God's Word.  If you do this you will have success in finding out what is truth.

 

 

 

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Ellen G. White

Early Critics
       
Lucinda Burdick
       O.R.L. Crosier 
       Snook & Br'hoff
       H. E. Carver  
       Miles Grant
       Charles Lee 
       Blanchard 
       Norwich Tract 

Men of Battle Creek 
       A. T. Jones - 1
       A. T. Jones - 2 
                .
       "To those who
       are perplexed"

       David Paulson 
       William Sadler 
       Charles Stewart 
       A. T. Jones 
                .
       JHK Interview 
       Merritt Kellogg 
       A. T. Jones - 3 

Later Critics 
       A. F. Ballenger
 
       E. S. Ballenger 

 
 

Wm. Miller / 1844
      

      
An Exposition of
       the Prophecies,
       Supposed by Wm.
       Miller to Predict
       the Second
       Coming in 1843
       (1840)
      
       Miller Over-
       thrown:  Or, the
       False Prophet
       Confounded
       (1840)
      
       Canright on Wm.
       Miller
       (1889)

 

The Shut Door
      

      
The Camden
      
Vision Genuine
       (1979) 

 

The Sanctuary
      

      
Canright on the
      
Sanctuary
       (1889; 1919) 


      
Cast Out for the
       Cross of Christ
       (1909) 

 

The Sabbath
 
       
The $200 Text:
       A Written Dis-
       cussion of the
       Sabbath

 



The Reason Why

Introduction   
Chapter 5 
      Example A

            .
      More on EGW &
       Daniel March
           
.


Example A has about
40 pages on
E. G. White's copying from D. March.

"More on EGW & Dan- iel March" has another
5 that serve as a sum- ming up.



The Bible & the
Bible Only

#  1 - The Millennium

#  2 - The Seven 
         Churches of
         Revelation

#  3 - Precious Gems
         from the
         Scriptures

#  4A - The 70 Weeks
         of Daniel 9

#  4B - The 70 Weeks:
         More Evidence

#  5 - God's Rest

#  6 - Armegeddon

#  7 - The Image to 
         the Beast

#  8 - The Flying 
         Scroll

#  9 - The Scroll with
         the Seven Seals

#10 - The 1st & 2nd
         Resurrections

#11 - The Lamb-like
         Beast

#12 - The Rapture:
         Is it Scriptural?

#13 - The Israelites:
         From Calvary
         to Canaan

#14 - The Sinaitic
         Covenant

#15 - Satan's Life
         Cycle

#16 - The 3 Angels'
         Messages

#17 - The Second
         Coming

#18 - Are God's
         Promises All
         Conditional?

#19 - The 144,000

#20A - Everlasting
         Hell Fire

#20B - Our Immortal
         Soul

#21 - How Are We
         Born Again?

#22 - Jewelry and
         Meat Eating

#23A - Everlasting
         Gospel

#23B - What Harm
         Has Been Done?

#24 - The Seal of God
         and the Mark
         of the Beast

#25 - The Day of
         the Lord

#26 - Once Saved,
         Always Saved?

#27 - The Seventh day
         versus Sunday

#28 - The Awesome
         Statue of Dan. 2

#29 - Is the Sabbath
         Commandment
         Abolished?

#30 - The Doctrines
         of Demons

#31 - Is God for Real?

#32 - The Lord's
         Remnant

#33 - The 3 Temples

#34 - The Heavenly
         Pregnancy

#35 - The 2 Witnesses

#36 - The Shut Door

37A - God's Restora-
          tion of literal
          Israel

37B - Replacement
          Theology

38A - Dispensational-
          ism   Part One

38B - Dispensational-
          ism   Part Two

#39 - Beasts of Dan. 7

#40 - Beasts of Dan. 8

#41 - The Best Dry
          Bones

 
 


Personal Experi- ences

Former SDAs  
       
D. M. Canright 
       Henry Brown 
       Harold Snide 1 
       Harold Snide 2 
       Monica Vowless 
       Pat Darnell 
       Ron Numbers 
       Jim Moyers 
       Paul Cales 
       Geneva Chinnock
       Wallace Slattery
       Tom Durst
       Jack Gent

Others  
      
A WCG Couple
       Mormon #1
 
                 .
      
Letters to Mor
       mon #1

                  .
 
       Mormon #2 
       Mormon #3 
       Mormon #4 

      
A JW
 

LINKS  --  for further reading

 

 

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